“We can’t distance ourselves from pain and trauma. We are immersed in them, because the basic principle of creating trust is that you will genuinely connect.”

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Episode notes

Mario is a clinician and psychotherapist, who first started working with Guatemalan immigrants to the USA in the early 1990s.

These days he’s clinical supervisor at the Marjorie Kovler Centre in Chicago, a part of the Heartland Alliance. He works with people claiming political asylum, and helps on initiatives elsewhere around the world.

Over the course of the interview we unpack:

  • What are the legacy effects of this kind of trauma, and what kinds of treatment seem to work best?
  • How do these approaches need to be culturally adapted? Or adapted to resource-limited environments?
  • What does self-care look like in a tough field like this? How do you avoid incurring secondary trauma over the long term?